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When i was through with the physical therapy yesterday... only doing 5
reps and that was with Steve lifting my knee up and down and sideways....
all was fine. Just 5 reps.. couldn't do that much haarm? Well... i got
in the car and went to Target... A(my favorite place to shop) well.. i
could hardly walk to the door my knee was aching so badly.!
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh did it hurt all day. When tom came home he put a towel
down on my knee , then an ice bag and then another towel... within minutes
i was frozen andd the pain was gone. ohhhhhhhh what relief? Actuaally...
the only way i can walk now is by dragging my leg. Keeping it straight is
the least painful ... so when i go to sit... i lift my leg up to bend it to
sit... and then i rub the daylights out of it! I wonder what 's to happen
today.... i go again.. and i'm going to tell him how much pain i was in.
my morphine didn't touch it.! Thanks for all the pointers, Kimber.... you
saved me, again! love, jan xox

there's a candle called Ocean breeze that takes your senses down to the
fresh air and warnth of the sun... how does that sound for you???
love, jan xox

will be coming up lit in just a few iminutes! MMMMMMMMMMMmm it is so
tempting to go make some.... i just might? love, jan xox

That amitriptyline was that naty drug the eye doc gave me. I told him i
was gaingin weight at anaalarming time period.! He said don't worry
we'll talk care of that later. I stopped taking it immediately. and now i
know why that sounds so familiar... because it was the amittttriptyline. I
had mentioned that drug to another eye doctor's nurse... and she said
that thaat drug was so wicked she would never take it! Ohhhhhhhhhh.. i
just knew it had to be that drug related. It's just no like me to eat
like there's no tomorrow.... and i feel horrible. i gained 3 lbs in one
day... then i knew there was something wrong. i just don't gain weight.
lllLuckily the script was only $$9.00 otherwise i would haave had a fit.!
Wait til itell Tom... The other night i ate one whole bag of chocolate by
myyself... and could have eaten more but i couldn't fffind any.... my
stash was empty!!! Also... when i've taken that nortrippttyllline... i
have a n awful time going #1. It takes me foreever to go.... and that's
not me either. Thank you so much for telling me these things. I looked at
the info sheet that came with the nortri..... and it said may cause
weight LOSS???? and the last time i got it.... and had Robert look it
up... it said it may cause weight gain or loss?????? I sure
appreciaaate all your helps.... both Jeannine and Robert.... i don't want
to be a 2 ton Haarris and at this rate... it wouldn't be toooo long,
either. love heaps and heaps, jan xox

Tou et tre mal, tre mal~~~~ je pense mai tou et
terrible. Mai , oui???

He's coming into town to shoot your froggie............ please hide him
well.... much love, jan xox the man is one can short of a 6 pak, he
is.!

Seems to me you're getting a reeal kick out of staring at your bum for
hours on end, these days???? You must be feeling better? eh? love, jan
xox

Yippe eeeeeYah.... i finally figured it out! AANDDDDDDDD it was just
SUPER talking to you and Denise last night! FOR REAL! not just on the
compputer.??? You have the most mellow ssouthern accent i've heard in
a lonngggggggggg time. Oh ouuuuuuuuuu it's nice to hear your voices!! I
can't get over it, yet? It' s like a dream............ only real.!
AAAAAand Denise,........... my fine friend... your calming voice is hard
to imagine you have highBP.????? Now remember... Next time i call
you.......! I walllllked out of the bedroom ( where my hearing impaired
phoneis) i guess with a funny face.. ( he he!)) Tom said... what's the
matter? Nothing............... but that wa sDenise and Robert on the
phone... we were actualyy talking to each other ! It was ssos
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppper, and a wonderful surprise... Yessssssssssssss i'm
still smiling!!! thank you , both.... We'll do it again and again....!
love, jan xoxc

Sshe's back!! YIPPEE YAH!!!! finally, she appears out of nowhere
~~~~back to her home where she belongs! I'm thrilled to see you here
again, Anna... Her last 2 yeaaars have been pure hell back and
forth.... mostly back....... and she made it! I had all the confidence
you would, you sweetie, you! For the most part, my Anna is shy and hasn't
posted in a few years, it seems. However.... she and I have correspooonded
bac and forth in the meantime.! She has many grandchildren but one, in
particular loves to paint with grandma... and theydot his together......
which i think is sooooooooooo neaat,,, wht wonderful memories you are
giving that darlling little girl! ii'lll be talking to you, soon!...
much lovve, jan xox

Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to say HI! And that I hope that everyone is having a great
evening and that Wednesday will be an even better day for all of us.
Today has been kind of a crummy day for me, got the car thing... its
definately the timing going bad again, which IS the same thing that the shop
last
summer supposedly repaired. So now I am going to be even more stressed about
that... legal stuff and how to pay for it in the mean time and etc. Blah, Blah,
Blah.....
We had a management meeting for moderators and ReeAnn and I tonight.... right
in the thick of things I got this terrible pain in my pain center, it was so
bad I almost threw up... the nausea didn't go away even after taking my
Zofran. I took my pain meds right after the pain hit and I still better than 4
hours later am having pain. I don't understand what caused the pain, I have
been
good about my eating, and doing my ensure as directed... must be the stress
catching up with me.... thats all I can think of, oh well. I'll live... not
going back to that darn hospital. NO WAY!!
Well, its getting late... I better go try to get a few winks.
Take care everyone!
{{{HUGZ and Prayers}}}
Denise
Denise Hallock in Michigan
Co-Owner ~ The Pancreatitis Place

Jeannine,
Thank You for passing on this info, I've been on this med for a few months
now and have been having major urinary problems. I never put the med and the
problem together though, and the hunger thing could definately be part of the
problem I am having with nausea. (I don't know about anyone else, but sometimes
when I am the most nauseated I feel like I am starving to death lately.)
I will definately be talking to my doc about this and one of the meds that
Pat posted the info on, I am taking more than one of the No no's on that list...
I wonder if they really ever look at the lists before they write the
scripts????
Things that make ya go Hmmmmmmm.....
{{{HUGZ and Prayers}}}
Denise
Denise Hallock in Michigan
Co-Owner ~ The Pancreatitis Place

Thanks Jerry.
Standing and cheering, from a white man from the same area as Jesse
Jackson. Time to put racism behind us and move on.
Robert
A Founding Member,

Lisa and Jan,
Just what I need for those early morning sugar lows in the 30's. You
guys got me hungry to. Nobody made them like my grandmother. Nobody
grew them like my friend Jimmy. Nobody enjoyed them more than me.
Nothing is the same anymore.
Robert
A Founding Member,

Our focused chat on Thursday is on Depression. This needs to be
addressed during the chat session. One thing leads to another.
Thanks,
Robert
A Founding Member,

I have been doing my homework on swelling problems. I found an
article this afternoon, I thought it would be of interest. You never
know what the spin-offs of pancreatitis can bring, until it is done.
Most people who have kidney disease have never had pancreas problems.
Thanks,
Robert
A Founding Member,

Dear Jan,
Thanks for your kind words. And your are right that we are both keeping up
the faith..
Take Care,
Louie in WV

Jan,
Peach cobbler sounds wonderful! Yum, now I am hungry!
Lisa

Hi Karen,
I certainly glad that you made it to your daughter shower on Saturday. You
probably have been over doing it. I hope you start feeling better very soon
and hopefully you will not end up back in the hospital again. I glad to
hear that your mother is doing better and is home from the hospital. I sure
hope that they get to the bottom of what is causing her problems, before she
has another attack. I'll keep you both in my prayers. Take it easy and try
not to over due it.
Take Care,
Louie in WV

wHAT FRAGERA CE DO YOUU PREFER????? ccccchERRY OR CHOCOLATE
KISSES????? tHERE'S AA FEW MORRE...... pEACHES COBBLER, BLACKK GRAPE
DELIGHT? AN D MANY MOORE.... JUST NAME YOUR POISON AND WE'LL HAVE IT
STOCCCCKED!!!!

This story is sooo great, I just had to pass it along to you!
Jerry/NC
*************************************
The following scene took place on a BA flight between Johannesburg and
London.
A white woman, about 50 years old, was seated next to a black man.
Obviously disturbed by this, she called the air Hostess.
"Madam, what is the matter," the hostess asked.
"You obviously do not see it then?" she responded. "You placed me next
to a black man. I do not agree to sit next to someone from such a
repugnant group. Give me an alternative seat."
"Be calm please," the hostess replied, "Almost all the places on this
flight are taken. I will go to see if another place is available."
The Hostess went away and then came back a few minutes later.
"Madam, just as I thought, there are no other available seats in the
economy class. I spoke to the captain and he informed me that there is
also no seat in the business class. All the same, we still have one place in
the
first class."
Before the woman could say anything, the hostess continued: "It is not
usual for our company to permit someone from the economy class to sit in
the first class However, given the circumstances, the captain feels that it
would be scandalous to make someone sit next to someone sooooo disgusting."
She
turned to the black man, and said: "Therefore, Sir, if you would like
to, please take your hand luggage because a seat awaits you in the first
class."
At the moment, the other passengers who were shocked by what they had
just witnessed stood up and applauded.

Pat/Lisa,
yes, people can have heart attacks during sleep apnea, but usually those
people have not been treated or are not using their cpap machine when it
happens. This is one of the reasons it is so important to have sleep
apnea treated with a cpap machine. It forces air down the throat so that
there is no oxygen deprivation, which can then lead to other more
serious illnesses. People have also been known to have strokes and any
number of other serious illnesses due to untreated sleep apnea. This is
why I use my machine. I've got enough problems and don't need any others.
Kimber
--
Kimber Allen
Vallejo, CA
hominid2@...
Note: All advice given is personal opinion, not equal to that of a licensed
physician or health care professional.

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Pat,
No I had nothing to with it. He has a cold and sometimes when little are sick
they wet the bed. Eric actually should have asked him when he climbed into our
bed if he had gone to the potty first but of course he didn't he just wanted to
roll over and get back to sleep. So you see it is really his own fault! Of
course I had to pay the price of doing the laundry and remaking the bed!
Lisa
Simi Valley, CA

Good evening, Pat. Thanks for the words of encouragement. The past
week has been not so great, but we all know what that's like. Maybe
the information about the transparent dressing will be useful to
someone. I used the Durgesic patches for about a year, but had a
problem with the adhesive and the pain became so bad that we needed
to try something else. We'll see what Friday brings. My husband has
been just the best.He keeps me sane. Time to finish dinner. Best
wishes from Linda from Atlanta

Jan...
Nortriptyline is the generic name; it is in the same family as
amitriptyline (Elavil) and they both cause weight gain because they
increase our appetites beyond belief ! I was unable to empty my
bladder while taking amitriptyline without straining so they took me
off that PDQ (pretty darned quick!)...
Take it easy...Jeannine
ps: I cannot think of antibiotic with similar name...but we DO have
to watch out for similar sounding names. TWICE last week, at the same
pharmacy TWO different people said "I don't see a prescription for
Amitriptyline" when what I asked about was "Almotriptan" which is for
migraines ! TWICE ! Once I was able to overlook but when TWO people
did it... <sigh

Hi Denise that is not the Denise that is not married to Robert!
Work it out, then you'll know what stress really is!!!
Some other excellent disciplins are TAI CHI and QHi QUONG
(sayCHEE Gwong), Tai chi is a very slow moving and graceful form of
execise and relaxation.
Chi Quong is actually TAI CHI but it's done only from the waist up
and can be done sitting down, a fruend of mine teaches this and he
has had near miracles happen to some pupils, a 12 Y/o Autistic girl
tha beat her head of the wall and just sat and moaned is now talking
and playing around with other kiddies, no medical reasons, doctors
are baffled.
86b year old had broken both her hips, but separately ovver some
years and was hardly able to walk is now going shopping alone and
doing TAI CHI whic involves standing and twisting on one foot only.
PRETTY STARTLING REASULTS DENISE BY ANY STANDARDS!!
By the way, my ass is styill shedding gold and silver stars some with
a pearly color on one side, and we are still getting out of bed
covered in the damn things over a week later!!
I'll eventually discover the culprit and it will be a case of an EYE
FOR AN EYE, MAYBE ONE EYE ONLY,wait and see!!!
Pat Lol YE HAW, I'll ride into town AND SHOOT THE WHOLE OF
fLORIDA UP, OR MAYBE cANADA, WATCH THIS SPACE, FROGGIE WATCH OUT!!

I recieved this information from Jan, My new address is working,
Jan!!!
Thanks,
A Founding Member,

Hello, Ed. Thank you so much for the warm welcome. It's easy to see
that you have a kind heart. I have "met" only kind people here so
far. It really does feel like a family.

Karen,
I hope you are feeling better soon and that the doctors are able to help
your mother in finding why she had a case of pancreatitis too. You are
both in my prayers and good wishes.
Kimber
--
Kimber Allen
Vallejo, CA
hominid2@...
Note: All advice given is personal opinion, not equal to that of a licensed
physician or health care professional.

Denise,
I know i recommended ice to someone on this list,on since that's what I
used to do for my migraines before I started taking Elavil and midrin,
but I can't remember if that was you or Ree or Lisa. I'm sorry it's
attacking your arthritis badly though. Seems that if it isn't one
thing, it's another, huh? Unfortunately, that's life sometimes. Is
there any way you can limit the location the ice pack is touching to
only the head?
Kimber
--
Kimber Allen
Vallejo, CA
hominid2@...
Note: All advice given is personal opinion, not equal to that of a licensed
physician or health care professional.

you've just spoken to onre of my bedrst of all the best friends. You have
made her mamade her smile countless times over and over again... and still
she smiles... ! thank you for letting her know how wonderful smiling is and
how good it is at healing. She's a grandnma, too and she paints with
her grandaughter... together How special is thath????? puter is goihg
biw,,, kicqw hB Ii

Please take her warning seriusly. Anna soesn't post much but she read's
maio everyday. She's and angel and a very good friend of mine. Miss Anna
lovepoanna.... please write us some more! love, jan xox

The crowds cheer!!! Robert did it again... fixed another problem that
baffled everyone else.! I thank you... kind , sir. Once again we have you
back!!! taaaa daaaaaaa! Robert, take a bough!! love, sis

when there's a door closed a window will be open. She sounds like a
fighter... jut like me and my mom. She underwent chemo , lost her breast,
her haiir, got 2 wigs ... which she hated and never once nisses a day of
work . she's a trooper... juust like your sis. We need them and they need
us... and they know it........... so there's no question about what has to
be done... that's fight lllike hell and show them all... I"M HERE TO
STAY!!!! and ya know what? it won't be long before you hear those
words,,,,, !! Hold on to faith,,,,,,,, wh needs fear
fro strength to make it through the day.... that's all... and when tomorrrow
's sun shines again... we'll ask the same thing... God give me the strength
to make it one more day. We've found that if you say a prayrer while you
lite a candle... the flame take thre prayer right straight up to God,
himeself1 I'm sorry i've been referring to her as your sis" and she's your
daughter" brain fade. love, jan xox

Lisa, my gentle Simi Valley Princess,
Dear Oh Dear, Oh Dear!!
I am beginning to see a dark and vengeful side to you, and there I
was, believeing you were as near to a saint as I'm likely to get.
Surely you feel some pity for poor Erik, his excuse is that he only
does things in his sleep, but you have these nasty vindictive
feelings when your awake, what's your excuse girl?
HeHeHeHeHeHeHe!
I love stirring things up, never know what way these saintly types
will behave, once they let their guards down, their nasty side comes
to the fore.
BTW,
I have seen the cPap devices, or at least a device, for the treatment
of sleep apnea, my friend of about 30 years suffers from it.I'm not
trying to frighten anyone, but he had a heart attack one night and
the doctors said it was caused by his heart stopping during an attack
of sleep apnea, it's no joke really, especially for Erik.
the device always reminds me of the creatures in the Movie Series
ALIENS, starring Sigourney Weaver, the ones that jump onto their
faces and enters into their chests.
Actually, at the height of my trouble with Paroxysmal Atrial
Fibrillation, an irregular heartbeat problem, I had to wear a
2PATIENT EVENT MONITOR for ages, several weeks. I had to press the
button on it every time I felt something like an irregularity, the
machine was set to retain the activity of my heart for two minutes
before I pressed and 1 minute after. I had woken a large number of
times from deep sleep, gasping for breath, I found the experience
very scary, to be honest, I will never forget those times and I am
scared it will happen again, which it can, anytime.
A good number of times I woke like that and pressed the recording
device, a Patient Activated "Cardiac Event Monitor" and the computer
readout showed my heart was actually stopping for sometimes up to 1.2
seconds, a very long time indeed for your heart to stop when you can
feel it!! I'm not sure what is the "Red Alert" time, I think it's 1.6
seconds upwards, but I'm not sure (HEY! Jeannine, we need you!)
Tell Erik i sympathise with him, over the sleep apnea yes, but for
having to endure your sly, revengeful methods of getting revenge.
It would not surprise me if you made the tiny one drink lots and lots
before he goes to bed with Daddy. Evil one!!!
See YAH, Wouldn't wanna be YAH!!
Pat
AKA Paddy Daddy Lol Lol!

This week has been one big headache for me..I just checked my blood
pressure and it was 148/97..no wonder I am having migraine
headaches..Denise ,sure hope your headaches and blood pressure are
doing better today.I can certainly tell you that I do know what it is
like with having the headaches and high blood pressure together..they
seem to go hand and hand..and I just wanted to say thanks to everyone
that welcomed me back!!I will try not to be a stranger anymore..love,Anna

also Try those poses I offered earlier (lie on the floor against a
wall with your legs resting against the wall...it is good for
lowering you blood pressure and relieving stress. And always think
about your breathing...when we're stressed we tend to take extremely
shallow breaths or hold our breath altogeher whereas deep breathing
is so much more beneficial....
Yoga is a **wonderful** way to reduce stress and it is peaceful and
relaxing to do, not like aerobics which is jarring and causes me
tremendous pain ! I have been taking a yoga class for three years
now and still look forward to it every week !
Good luck...Hugs, Jeannine

My # is 941-624-2607 You probably dialed right... we were outside talking
with our neighbors for a while.. and if a 3 comes up on the caller id and
it say " name not provided" we won't answer it a s we have so many of
those foolish telemarketer calls and i'm not so nice to them al the time!!
I've been doing fine... and have no had the ER in mind for months and
hopefully all year. That's my new years resolution. You know that Maxine
he put on the screen.... i sent to him... i have laughd about that afor quit
a while! Well. you'll never believe what's coming to him next???? Paper
towel with all kinds of her sayings (sarcastic at life in general) on it!
So i didn't roll the whole roll up as at a point they repeart thenmselve.
but it's a wad1!! and a good laugh! Like i said before... i think she's
hilarious as can be! I looked fof a picture of a dragon today and couldn'g.
But i bet if i get tom on this puter he can find one for me? i'l ask him
.. Well findone It jut has to e really good. puter actig up again, ory loek
jan xi

Oh you BAD BAD boy! What would Lily think if she saw what you are posting!

Ok Eric got his due last night. My 3 yr old never has potty accidents in the
bed well last night I was on the couch and Colin climbed into bed with daddy and
went pee all over him! This is what he gets for all those nights he punched me
in his or rolled over on top of me, or snored too much,or.....................
Lisa
Simi Valley, CA

Well hello Ms Witchy Bitchy Moanalot!!!
Save up and buy a Honda, or any of the Japanese cars, they have
virtually bullet-proof engines, and they can even put up with being
driven by WOMEN TOO!!!!
GEEEZZZ, it's great to live dangerously sometimes!!!!!!!!!
On the subject of disaster magnets, if your the south pole, then I'm
the north pole of the worlds largest disaster magnet.
I am one of Natures clowns, my luck is bad luck or I have no luck at
all.
If I bred ducks they would drown.
If it was raining soup, I would have a fork in my hand.
If I went into the funeral business, people would stop dying.
I developed a cheap, short life, gas lamp and someone invented the
Eternal flame.
If you have any more like this, then post them and give us a laugh at
least.
Pat

Hi Pat,
Are you referring to the letter that Jan send me? No I didn't get any
silver....some gold would be nice but no gold or silver....hee hee hee
Why , are needing something silvery and sparkly? Robert said, to turn
around and check your Bum !!!!
Answer back, we are here!!!
Denise Hammett

Hi Denise,
Did all sivery, sparkly things fall out of the letter too?
Need to know, please?
Pat

Good God, the lists attached to drugs are usually long, but this one
must surely be acontender for the Guinness book of Records.
How do they find anyone to use this medication, except those thatre
in the very final stages of a treminal disease.
The list of drugs must cover almost every disease group in exisitence.
It would not encourage one to rush to use it, would it?
Pat

Now, Now, Lisa,
This is a family board, please keep your bedroom antics for the other
boards you post on, you know, the onese whre you offer to... no,
there are decent people here, they don't visit those types of sites,
the ones where you have appeared in..... No, I won't say those filthy
things that you say onthose other sites where your bedroom carry on
with E, no it wasn't Erik it said on that site,, OH uh OH, I think I
have let the cat out of the bag!
Byeeeeeeeeee,
Annonymous, clean minded parent of non active teenagers and I diden't
actually visit those sites, i was "told" about them, you understand
that, don't you all? I'm not that type, really, I'm religious, my
friend wears a nuns habit and whips me with beads and burns me with
candle wax, hey, doesn't Jan use lots of candles,....... mmmmmmm, I
wonder, Jan!, Jan!, where are you? have you any spare hot wax love,
I need to hurt, i need it!!!!!

But, how can you be sure he's sleeping when he punches you in the
face?
It sounds like a great excuse for someone to be able to get their own
back, maybe for all the things you force him to do when
he's awake!! Lol! HeHEHeHeHe, I love stirring the pot!!!
Pat
How's it going Erik? Getting in plenty of big left handers?, Try for
the uppercuts or bite her ears, that what it takes tobe a world
champion,aske Iron Mike!!! HeHeHeHe!!
Hi ya Lisa?

Hello Linda,
You must promise me that you will stop thinking that your "Bending my
ear" or"whining" or being a wimp or any of the myriad things we tell
ourselves when we feel like you do.
You are not bending my ears at all, quite the reverse actually, you
have provided not only me, but anyone else that reads your post,
about the availability of the covers for the patches. If you call
that ear bending or whining, then PLEASE DO MORE OF IT!!!
I can relate to how you felt about your diagnosis of tyour disk
problem, I was in exactly the same situation, except my disc were in
my neck, the cervical spine area as opposed to yours, in the lumbar
region. Sometime after I had the very dangerous and only partially
successful surgery on my spine, I realised I had been delighted when
I got my diagnosis, I had phoned my wife and I was laughing with
delight and joy.
Then suddenly I realised how stupid I had been, I was happy to be
told I might become paralysed from the neck down if they didn't
operate there and then! That's carazy thinking, and from that moment
on I swore I would not allow doctors to talk down to me ever again.
There is no doubt, it was hard to do in the beginning, but each time
I took control of the situation with a doctor, it felt good and itm
made the next time easier. But it's easier if you have help and
support, so you should find the information you need on the site or
elswhere on the internet, such as the sites at the end of the links
on the site to famous hospitals and PRINT out the information,
especially the name of the hospital and hand it to the doctor when
you see him/her. Take it from me, no doctor will dare contradict what
these famous hospitals are saying, and if your saying the same, then
they can't tell you your wrong!!!
Try it and see for yourself. It will give you confidence in all parts
of your life. And if you can get your husband to read the sites
listed on this site, then he will better understand the terrible pain
and suffering you have.
He is like all of our spouses and family and friends, he has not had
the problems himself, YET. That's what most people don't realise
about this disease, it hits all sorts of people, young and old alike,
drinkers and non drinkers, and it doesn't matter which of those you
are, it still hurts the very same.
You seem to me to be a very confident person but I get the impression
that you don't realise just how strong you really are. And you have
far more confidence than you believe also.
You impressed me with your evaluation of your mother in law, and
those just like her we all meet in life. Your attitude to her and
your approach to life is very mature and well grounded.
I imagine you would make a wonderful friend to have close by, someone
that can be depended on, but you may do too much and end up
being "put upon" more than relied on. Please watch out for this, it
can become very tiring on you, especially if your having a rough time
personally.
Linda, you have many, many strengths, and I'm sure you have enormous
skills too, but one of the things I admire most in you, and in people
generally, is your ability to accept the things you can't change or
alter and to simply get on with life and leave the fools to fend and
play with themselves. Your a survivor, and a very nice one to know
too, I consider myself priviledged to know you, even in this long
distance way. Thank you for your participation in posts I make and
please continue to do so, I greatly enjoy them.
One thing I meant to ask you, apart from the problems with the
adhesive, did you find the patches helped your pain? If the patches
are a help to you, in that you don't have to take "millions" (!Lol)
of pills, perhaps you will mention the TRANSTECH ones to your doctor,
her may just be able to arrange a smaple pack for you to try. Yhois
is something else that very many patient never think to do, asking
the doctor that's prescribing something new as an experiment
basically, to give them some smaples, say 3 days worth, before they
pay out large amounts of money on something that will not perhaps
suit them.
God bless you Linda, and the very best of luck when you see this pain
doctor, and if you will, please let me, or all of us actually, how
you got on, and try to bring us something to celebrate with you, like
making this person listen to you and do what you want.
Pat

I have your new drug information, Jan.
It is good for anyone on Nortriptyline.
Hope this helps.
Robert
roberthammett@...
A Founding Member,

Good Morning Everyone,
Well, I've been to the garage got a diagnoses and sent to the dealership for
the work that is going to have to be done... and the praying did the trick I
guess, because the problem with the car is indeed part of the work that was
done last summer. They can't tell without getting into the motor if the problem
is with a defective part or if it is shoddy workmanship. But it is definately
in the timing. According to the Warranty company the shop that fixed the
timing is responsible for any of the repairs that they supposedly did last
summer.
12 month 12,000 miles, and that since I can't take it back to them I should
contact them to see how they want to pay for the repairs (yeah, right... fat
chance that they are going to do that!) So I guess I should be looking for an
attorney to help me out now, because I know I can't afford to have all of that
work re-done and the warranty company won't pay for it to be re-done... and I
am Not taking it back to that podunk little shop so they can screw me over
some more. Thanks, but no thanks. The stress man cometh.... So much for a low
stress new year.
This sure has gotten things stirred up for me too... my pain level is way up,
so is the nausea.. and as far as being able to get too far from the little
girls room... not a chance. I just don't understand how all of this stuff can
go wrong at once... I think I am a disaster magnet!! If it weren't for bad
luck, somedays I don't think I'd have any!! lol. (Notice I said Some days).
You know, the worst part about all of this is... I have been saying since I
got the car back that something wasn't right... and here we are mid-winter and
4 months since I first drove it home, and I was right.. something is
definately not right. Go figure. What is it with Mechanics and women? (Not
all of
them are like this I am sure.) But if you have female parts they think you
can't possibly know anything about how a car should run?? Well, I don't have
Stupid female stamped anywhere on my anatomy, and I don't appreciate anyone
thinking that... I think I'll back to school... and learn all I can about
CARS!!!
(then treat men the way they treat women...)(sorry guys, no offense
intended.... just having a vent here... maybe I should have taken one of you
with me,
then I wouldn't be in this predicament!!)
Anyway... that's where I am at with the car. Now I am off to look for
lawyers that might handle this kind of case, just in case the repair shop gives
me
any crap. ( I hope they do, I have been looking for someone to get some
aggressions out on lately!!! hehehe, poor people have awakened not only the
Pancreas beastie, but the Redheaded Irish/English Beastie in me.... GRRRRR!!
They
may never know what hit em!!! Good thing I'm not Evil or anything, lol!)
I hope you will a GRRRreat day!!!
{{{HUGZ and Prayers}}}
Denise
Denise Hallock in Michigan
Co-Owner ~ The Pancreatitis Place

Hey Jan,
I just knew something was up with you yesterday, when you wasn't on
line. I called you at home but only got an answering machine. I left
a message for you but never got a response from you----I was
wondering if I should call somebody close to you. But then I found
out that I didn't know anybody but 911. I just thought I would wait
on you to write, and today Guess WHat----Email from Jan----Boy I am
so glad to hear from you....I am so sorry about your knees, thats
gotta suck. And that medicine making you eat so much!!!! Robert will
do some homework on it for you if you give him the name. Oh, let me
know if I have your right home phone number...Please
love Denise
XOX

i kind of liked to mess with Pat''s mind, too! He's easy!!!! But he
neve r answered.... as to his preference????? he!he! He probably wants
them allllllllllllllll you know Pat...... has to have it all AAALLLL
the time????? guess who stinkey bunnie???????

Hi Denise.... this double denise has gotten to be funny again!! i love it!
i really stumped Pat when i told him that YOU didn't have a wife... but
many other firends.. pink polka dotted ones, blacka nd white striped
ones with checkers... you take your pick???? He hasn't replyed yet... He's
still very coonfused so why not play with this one?????? Gguess
what i got in the mai l today??? A sweet bunny in the sunshine!
Ohhhhhhhhhh he's so cute and i have him right here by the
pputer................ did you know he's smiling????? How's today for
you???? After i go get some more candles... i'n headed to be fr the
day! My knee... after yesterday's therapy is killing me... i go back
tomorrow,,,,,,,,,,,, i got to dipmy hands in that hot wax thoough!
ohhhhhhhhhhh it's just heaven ! ttyl, jan xoxox

If you want... i can be your adopted Mom here in the states?? This goes
for your daughter....( i only had boys... no girls) and your lovely wife.
Aall three of you are candle prayers in my home... and that's what makes
it a home not a house! I hope each day brings you more strength and
love that generates about you so you may share more of you with others.
God bless you, alllllllllllllllllllll! love, jan xox

You're just as much of a part of ths family as roobert! ( this
puter is making me mad)I love you, too sweetie... and really pray you
get more relaxws and get that blood pressure down. Id give you some of
mine... it's usually 80/53. It's gotten down as low as 41!! That was
scarey. I hope you have a better day today... and all the candle
prayers are going, I' going to get sme more candles today... then
my knee is going up to rest. have agood ooone, love, hab xox

Yesterday i was at physical therapy for the afternoon. Then i had to
walk(not run) some errands. Woweee mmy knee is in trouble.. i can hardly
walk on it. He did a few maunaal (with his hands ntt a machine(
exercises) like 5 each knee and i'm telling you by the time i got out of
the car to get to target... i could hardly walk... in so much pain. He says
it's the muscle thigh muscle that's connected to the knee cap underneath
that' giving me the pain. It's just crazy how this just happened all at
once! I got to have a wax bath for my hands and fingers... which is
heaven.. truely ... and it takes the pain away for 5-6 hours before
it starts up again. Ok... back to your question... it was NOT me
taking about epilim ( i don't know a thing aaabout it) but Robert is
supposed to be doing some reerch on it with Pat , i believe... that is
if we got hise address straihhhhtened out.... By the way.... what is
the update on his address? I 'd like to talk to him? This
project aaaabout (epilim and the others neurtron (sp?) is between
robert and Pat. This puter is doub;e printing again... sooory o
o
, o
d be fprever straighyrning it oooout? How are your headaces today?
I think it has alot to do withe the stress of Robert'sz condditioon. Go
dbles you. I've lit cndle prayers allready for everyone beforw i got on
line ans ittt loooks like i'm going
to have to go out and get some more today. That's all i'm going to do then
taje it easy. Last night... again.. i kept falling into my dinner or
dropping my fork and knife on the fooor. i'd doze off in the middle
of a chew??? wwhaat's going on??? tom says it's the med's again. It
took me aabout 6 tries to get back to the bed without stopping and
shutting down. My pain doc prescribed some more of those sleeping
pills for me. He asked if i wa sleeping now bevaue of the new pills....
so he prescribd me more under a diffetrent name but i find out when i
get home and commpare these two.... they atre the same????@@@ If i'd
none that i woulfn'y hve had themm filledd. DdddddSso, i thought.. il
one more time i'll tryttthem... so for the last 4 nights i've been taking
them.... and i think they're nooo good for me. I think they 're
knocking me out at all and any time of the day or night and to make it
worse.... i get up about every 2 hours and eaat whatever i can find????
Like a ppig?? I get up starviing and start shoveling away!!!! This
is going to stop NOW. In the moorning... we are missing breajkfast
food and othwe things we thought we had and they are gone...
wwrappers in thew trash!!!! IT"S GOT TO BE THOSE (so called)
sleeping pills. The are antidepresants called..... hold
on~~~~~~norytiptylineee HCL 25 mgs and the generic iis called
Pamelor. Many years ago.. an eye doctor wanted me to try this antibiotic
that has been proven to give back perhiperal vision.... and
it (this norrtriptyline) sounds like the same stuff.! i can't remembr
for sure... except it (this drug) made me eat like there's no tomorrow
and et so much that i would throw up all over the place and not even know
what wa going on til the morning.. when tom would haave c hanged the bed and
have piles of stinky cclothes heaped by the front door. ( We lived at the
beach and had to go out to wash clothes) My clothes are getting too tight
( i hate that ) so i'm stopping those pills... they have to be
conntributing to my fade outs. Aall my med's i taike have warnings of
dizziness and not to operate machinery etc... blablabla... And i'm
getting tired of being so tired and out of it! No more. The other drug i
talked about that wa horrendous was vancomyacin... the antibiotic...
lost my hr=earing and mmysight and my hair. Stay away from both of these.
please. Cipro is another one. A very stron antibiotic that harms the pan
creas and most aol the other internao organs.. It's rough on the body.
ddon't agree tto take any of these........... geese// o hope i answweree
your questionse. lofek jan xox

Just wanted to let you all know I appreciate all your prayers, kind words, and
thoughts. I am way behind on my e-mail and don't know when I'll get caught up.
I ended up going to the ER late Tuesday night with another pancreatitis attack.
I hadn't felt good for several days and was mostly sticking to clear liquids.
However, I began vomiting violently Tuesday night and couldn't stop so off to
the ER. I just had my hubby bring me to the local hospital since it is only 5
minutes away. I told him to just drop me and go home to sleep. I got there at
around 4 a.m. They got me right back and they were so incredibly kind to me the
whole time. They ended up calling my local PCP and admitted me. I could not
have asked for better treatment from all the
ER doc, nurses - both in the ER and on the unit. On Wednesday morning, they
decided to put me on a PCA pump with morphine because even though they were
giving me 10 mg of morphine IV every 2 hours as needed, it was barely keeping
things under control. Of course, you also have the problem of being in misery
waiting for the med if the nurse is tied up. The PCA pump worked so much better
and I really ended up using less pain med overall. I convinced the doctor to
let me come home Friday morning. Nikki's bridal shower on Saturday was lovely
despite me nearly having a melt down over trying to get it all together.
Everyone raved over all the food and the decorations. thank goodness for the
Dollar Tree and Costco! I made it through Saturday pretty well considering, but
things have kind of been going down hill again since then. I had an appt with
my internal med doc today, but I couldn't even stand the thoughts of having to
get dressed to go to the doc, not to mention that he is in the next town and
it's a 45 minute drive each way. I just called my local PCP and told him that
I'm not doing well. I asked if he thought I should go back to our local
hospital or if I should go to the larger hospital in the next town where my
GI/hepatologist and internal med doc are located. He told me he really felt I
needed to go to the next town and insist that my GI/Hep get more involved in my
care. For the moment, my pain is tolerable, thanks to my pain meds and zofran
for the nausea. My husband and decided I will try to ride it out tonight and if
things aren't a good bit better in the morning, I will call both my internal med
doc and GI and see what they want to do with me.
I may eventually get caught up with all the posts, but no promises. I have 97
messages in my in box. I receive all the messages from my online groups in
digest form except the ones from liver suppport group, so 97 messages is really
more like about 300 or more posts!
Oh, my mom got out of the hospital Thursday night with no answers as to the
cause of her attack of pancreatitis. She will see a local surgeon next week
because her pcp thinks her gallbladder may be at the root of it. She will see
my GI on Feb 25th. She will also seek a second opinion from a urologist
regarding her kidney stones. For now she is doing better, but not at all up to
par. thanks for the prayers for her.
Hope this finds all of you doing well. I just wanted to let you all know whay
you haven't heard much from me lately.
Karen W

Jac,
Well, I put a ice pack on my neck today to help with the pain,
Everybody on the board was telling me to do that, it kinda eased my
head-but did nothing for the "ARTHUR" in it. Thanks for asking about
us---Robert is having a so-so day. We stayed in today.
Hope you have more good days to work in your garden.
love , Denise

Denise, how is your migraine 2day?? has it eased up any. I do hope
so as it get`s you down. Did you get a good night`s sleep?? and how
is Robert 2day, does he feel any better, the pair of you need a good
rest, once you both have settled down abit from your scare with
Robert,and unwound after all the stress, fingers crossed the two of
you will start to feel better, well maybe not better, but not so
tense. As for me the last two day`s have been good for me, best
since, so long ago, i can not even remember. So am enjoying it while
it last`s,i did have a rough time two - three week`s ago, but i just
stayed home rested, even rested my panc by eating only fluids for a
few days and presto, it so far has lead to two pain free day`s, only
ache`s in abdomen through to my back.So i am going to take thing`s
slowly, and just do what i feel up to. Today i changed my net
curtains, and did some gardening. Nice and relaxing. Will be saying
a prayer for you both, and wishing you well.{{{ TAKE-CARE }}} Jac.
xox

HI Kimber,
I was talking to Lisa the other day and she had said something about
an ice pack and so did ReeAnn. I was kind of skeptical about it,
because of the cold and I can't handle the cold at all. ---But I
tried it and it did help with my headache, but it killed my arthritis.
This blame stuff gets in the back of neck all the way down my spine---
I have degenerative disc desease, and when its cold -"ARTHUR" comes
to visit me in a big way!!!
Denise

My dearest Jan,
You have got to be the most thoughtful person that I know!!!I went to
get my snail mail today, and guess what!!!A letter for ME!!OOOOH !!!I
was so excited!!!Cause its usually just Robert . I opened it right
away!!!It was so cute and sweet. It really uplifted my spirits!!!You
put a smile on my face. Tom is really a lucky man!!!Thank you so very
much.
Denise
XOX

Robin is in the hospital for an attack. I'm sorry I neglected to put that in
the post... don't know where my mind was. She said this is the longest she
has been in yet. I sure hope that she is feeling better soon, she says she is
hanging in there... We're here when you feel up to chatting Robin!
My car... well, I have to take it back tomorrow morning since they didn't
tell me what time to be there this morning and by 9 am when I got there they
were
full for the day. So... tomorrow at 8 am I take it back to the garage and
they will get started on it asap. I, in one way, hope its nothing serious.
Then again I hope it is the same problem that they supposedly fixed last summer,
and that somehow the repairs will be paid for by the garage that did the work
before. I am praying for that.
I guess if that is the way things are meant to go then they will and if
not.... then... they won't. But I am going to keep on praying that Something
good
is going to happen. Please, please... Everyone think positive thoughts for me
today and pray for my car... pray for it to be one or the other and nothing
more.
{{{HUGZ and Prayers}}}
Denise
Denise Hallock in Michigan
Co-Owner ~ The Pancreatitis Place

Hi Kimber,
Yes, I do agree, when I am stressed out, they seem to get worse. But
how can you just omit the stress in life. I know you can't omit ALL
the stress but HOw can you get rid of most of it. I need to live a
normal life---these headaches consume me !!!
Denise

I have the new 2003 State health rankings.
They will be added to our links in case you lose them.
Thanks,
Robert
A Founding Member,
roberthammett@...

Hi Denise,
What is Robin in the hospital for? Is it just an attack or something more
serious? You said that she has been in for over 5 weeks. I wasn't online
very much back then, so I must of missed what is wrong with her. How did
you make out with you car? I hope everything went well for you.
Take Care,
Louie in WV

Patrick,
I can see how some people would be embarrased or leary of takeing
Methadone becuase of it's use to detox heroin addicts, but it's never
bothered me. I just calmly explain that the medication is also used as
an analgesic for chronic pain and is fairly inexpensive compared to the
other options. So far, I haven't gotten any attitude back from anyone.
Guess I'm just lucky, but then I'm also careful of who I tell that I'm
taking pain meds. Don't want someone falling me home or accost me to
take my pain meds away from me to sell on the street. I'm also not
taking a lot of pills with it, only 3 a day, which I don't consider a
lot, but I'm also only at the beginning of endstage chronic
pancreatitis, so my pain is still relatively low) and I'm still able to
eat at least 2 meals a day. My disease has been a very slow progression
over many years, unlike many on this group, whose disease has progressed
rapidly. I'm also allergic to morphine, so I am unable to take the
medication that is the first one usually considered by pain specialists.
Kimber
--
Kimber Allen
Vallejo, CA
hominid2@...
Note: All advice given is personal opinion, not equal to that of a licensed
physician or health care professional.

Hi Linda,
I would like to welcome you to out group. You will find us very
understanding. We are here for you when your having bad days and also here
for the good days, as well. You couldn't of said it better, when you said
that your husband is very supportive,but can not know how it feels. I don't
think anyone truly understands the pain that we all go through, unless you
have this dreaded disease. I think all lot of the doctors, don't have any
idea of the pain that we suffer from. So many doctors , are very good at
making us believe that when they can not explain our pain, that it's all in
our head. One day, a long time ago, I told my doctor that it wasn't in my
head, it was my right side and my back that hurts. He just looked at me
like I was crazy, but I was in so much pain that I just didn't care. How
long have you had pancreatitis? Again welcome and if your ever need
anything, just ask and someone will try to help.
Take Care,
Louie (A Lady) in WV

Pat,
sounds a lot like my favorite site (John Hopkins GI Website). I'll have
to check it out. Thanks for finding it.
Kimber
--
Kimber Allen
Vallejo, CA
hominid2@...
Note: All advice given is personal opinion, not equal to that of a licensed
physician or health care professional.

Hello Everyone,
I have a message to pass on... One of our Family members Robin, from Georgia,
instant messaged me tonight on AOL. She asked me to say Hello to everyone,
and to please let everyone know that she is still in the hospital. Today makes
5 weeks and 1 day.
She does have her laptop and is going to try to get online a bit now and
then... but she just wanted me to say Hey for her tonight so everyone would know
she's hanging in there!!!
{{{HUGZ and Prayers}}}
Denise
Denise Hallock in Michigan
Co-Owner ~ The Pancreatitis Place

Hi, Pat. I hope that you are feeling better after your very taxing
weekend. You reminded me of what my mother-in-law said when I told
her that the doctor had started giving me Methadone. She told me
that when my husband and I retire and move back home to Alabama that
I could go to the Methadone Clinic! I told her that wouldn't work
for me and just laughed inside. I love my mother-in-law, but
sometimes she can be so ignorant! I don't waste time trying to
explain myself to people. As long as I am true to God and myself,
I'm okay. Just a word on the patches, when I was using them, I had
problems with then staying on. I called the drug company and they
sent me a supply of transparent dressings to put over the patch.
With one of those over the patch, it didn't come off even in the
heat. If you have a problem with the patch not adhering well, as
long as you don't tell the drug company that you're allergic to the
adhesive, they will keep sending you the patches whenever you need
them. I wish that my pain was better controlled. I haven't seen my
pain doc since last November, so we have a lot to talk about this
Friday. I've always been afraid of appearing to be weak. I had a
ruptured disc in my back that went undiagnosed for a year. The
doctors tried to make me believe that the pain was in my head. I was
so relieved when the diagnosis was finally proven. One reason thaat
I joined this group is because I need to feel that there are people
in this world who don't think of me as a neurotic housewife or a
wimp or a burden or a whiner. My husband is very supportive, but he
cannot know how it really feels. Sorry for bending your ear so
much. I'm so glad that you are doing better. From Linda from Atlanta

Denise,
I wanted you to know that migraines can be caused by stress, something
you've been having quite a lot of lately, so in some ways, it's not
surprising that you are having migraines.
Kimber
--
Kimber Allen
Vallejo, CA
hominid2@...
Note: All advice given is personal opinion, not equal to that of a licensed
physician or health care professional.

Hello Linda,
I forgot to mention to you that i use a patch, but not the Fantanyl
one.
the one I use is called TRANSTEC and the drug it contains is named:
BUPRENORPHINE.
I also have an alternative to the "suckers" or "lickers" that are
used with the Fantanyl patch's. My pills are TEMGESIC SUB LINGUAL,
they contain the very same drug as the patches, only in rapid acting
form. You place one under your tongue and allow it to dissolve so
it's instantly absorbed into the bloodstream by the lining under the
tongu, a very absorbant and sensitive area.
My doctors feel this brand is less likely to cause increased nausea
than the other brand, I have no idea why, it just does.
i was on the Fentanyl and they tried everything but my nausea just
beat me and I had to stop.
Using the TRANSTEC patch, I can use a very mild anti nausea med,
VALOID, and it works for me.
the adhesive is a new developement and it causes less irritation too,
I can certainly say that is true, for me anyway.
One other thing Linda, it may seem strange, but it's proven that
extreme nausea when your taking opiate or opiod medications, like
trhe ones were talking about, will dramatically improve if the dose
is INCREASED!!
The effect of the smaller doses is that your system is going from one
extreme to the other, imagine it like being aon a see-saw and going
up high and then falling down real low, this is happening to your
system it seems.
Recently, we had a new member in sweden, Lars and his wife, Else, and
she was on the Fentanyl patches but wanted to stop because she felt
so ill. Her doctor increased her patch dosage and she was fine, still
using them I think.
The Methadone is good in it's own way, but it is a dirty drug
compared to more modern ones, and everyone seems to agree that when
your not a drug addict, and your taking Methadone, you have a poor
aself image, that's a general statement i know, some people have a
fullsense of ther personal worth in life and are very happy with
their self image, but unfortunately not everyone can be like that and
therefore it's important that any drug your taking should not cause
one to feel embarrased about the drug. Many patients taking it do
have problems of embarrasment about taking it because of it's drug
addict image. I think this is perfectly understandable but sometimes
your told your a snob or uncaring and looking down on drug addicts as
low life or something.
My answer to those making such comments is : SO WHAT? Deal WITH IT!
We are all entitled to our feelings after all.
Linda, I'm not trying to make you feel bad about taking Methadone,
but so many Pancreatitis complain about how awful it is to take and
the large number of pills required when it's all we can do to swallow
a sip of water makes compliance with taking the drug as prescribed
makes it a less effective drug, surely no one can argue for a drug
that requires so many pills per dose against the more modern ones
where maybe only 2 pills per day are needed, like MS Contin Slow
Release, or the patches that last for 3 days! I know where I stand!
Regards,
Pat

Ale,
You are in a very pretty area of So. Cal. If the dr. says pan rest is what you
need than I would listen. You don't want to do any more damage to there already
is. I am so glad you have a good dr. Listen to her. Don't worry about
working. What is important is you. I think there are others her on the board
that are NPO and they are still working. If I am correct I am sure they will
post soon. Have some more good days and plenty of rest!
Lisa

Jan
How are you today?...
Thanks for you candles and prayers, I'm in pain today, yesterday I
took my parents to San Diego, remember they are visiting from
Colombia, I want to take them to places but some times I forget how
sick I am and I make plans that are to much for my body, I'm glad one
of my friend went with us so she drove all the way back, I'm sure she
knew it was to much for me, I was so sick at night, I hate to see my
parents to get upset because I'm sick, but I love to have them with
me.
My doct said that my panc. needs to rest to recover. so that she
wants to do the NPO for a month, I didn't ask any detail, so I don't
know if I will be able to work.
muchos besos and prayers
Ale

Just an imprtant addendum to the information about this appaling drug.
Under the section that outlines the reasons for the use of this drug
you should all be aware that this drug is commonly prescribed by
many, many Pain Management specialists as part of a cocktail of meds
to control chronic pain. It is more often used by them to assisit
with the treatment od chronic NEUROPATIC PAIN, the type of pain felt
during an attack of shingles or especially among unfortunate
diabetic's with peripheral nerve damage to their feet, hands, and
limbs generally.
If your Pain Management doctor suggests you should take it, BE VERY
VERY CAREFUL INDEED, aske for some alternatives, even if you are told
the alternatives are less effective. Be in no doubt that this drug
will harm you, no question about this, IT WILL HARM YOU, in whatever
way will determine the damage tou acquire, your Pancreas is the prime
contender followed very closely by your liver.
If you do agree to take it, insist on liver function tests before you
begin taking it, this a vital precaution and you should not have to
ask but do so anyway, it's your life afterall.
then you should be monitored by repeating the tests in a week later,
folllowed then by every ten days for about a month. THIS IS THE ONLY
CHANCE YOU WILL GET TO REVERSE ANY SEVERE DAMAGE THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE
TO YOU.
If there are any changes in your bloods, insist you stop it there and
then, do not give in to the doctor, he wont pay the price, you will.
They will offer you alternatives but you need to be wary of these
also, one of the best ones is now being looked at very sriously as
the cause of Pancreatitis in a large number of patients.
Regards,
Pat

Lisa.
I am in Redondo Beach, one block of ocean, I love my place, I can see
the ocean every morning, the ocean really connects me with God.
I change my Doctor in December, I like her, I can see she knows what
she is doing. she believes me and that is important think she was
working with Do. Lo before..... yes, she said that my panc. needs to
rest to recover. so that she wants to do the NPO for a month, she
didn't say any detail and I didn't ask, I was in shock for everything
that she say that day, so now I have questions like if I will be
able to work or I have to have the IV all the time...
How are you felling today? do you have a good weekend?.... hope you
are felling better.
muchos besos
Ale

To guess who ! This is a GOOD one !!! Kepp 'im guessing./..make him
even crazier !!! Ha Ha !!! :)
Hugs, Jeannine

Andre' I have your family in our family prayers. It is very hard to
watch your family suffer. I feel your pain with your dad being in
such bad shape. Family pain is much worse than your own pain. Chiggy

Hi Pat,
Your not along about the confusion about the Denise's. I was wondering why
Denise Hallock would post so much info about Robert condition. Then I
finally realized that Robert's wife was also name Denise. I didn't even
know that he was married. It must have happen when I was off line for
awhile and I did not realize that he had gotten married to a Denise . Well
, welcome Denise Hammett and congratulations on being married to such a
great guy as Robert. Denise Hammett. are you the Denise with the migraines
or do I have my Denise mixed up again. I do sympathizes with you, as I too
have suffer from Migraines for over 25 years. They are much better than
they were back in the 80's. I hope you get the right medicine to get them
under control. Now for Denise Hallock, how are you feeling? Pat are you
feeling any better. I certainly hope so. I was so upset, when I read that
you didn't get to make your wedding, as I know how much you were looking
forward to it.
Take Care,
Louie in WV

Pat I just wanted to wish you a late happy birthday wish. Sorry I
overlook this information at the time of it. How old are you now?
Chiggy

Robert thank you for this information. I hve not thought of it being
this help. Our guests enjoy it so much and the spa stays filled. I
did use it late last night. It is good for stress. Keep me doing
correct. You all are in our family prayers Chiggy

Mrs Robert. Please look out for Robert. Your hospital and doctor are
not good for him. Please check into finding him another one. I was
treated very well while I was in the hospital. That is important.
Chiggy

Dear Pat,
I am sooooo sorry for the mix-up. I never intended to cause such a
stir. I have always been in the background -always listening to
Robert talk about all you guys at TPP(fondly) I knew just a few that
knew me back and that was ReeAnn and the other Denise.So this time
when Robert got sooo sick- I wanted the board toknow what was going
on so I came on and posting -not thinking about the 2 Denise's hee hee
Sorry!!!! I will try and clear this up now, if I may----I will sign
all my post with DHammett----OK ? Thats cool!!!
I hope you have a good day Pat and rest ok. Robert went back to bed,
he is not feeling so good today. Until later----- Oh let me know
about the DHammett or DHam or ??? Hey I could sign with my nickname,
but....they stopped calling me by my nickname in middle school and
boy that was a long time ago ha ha!!!Well, I not gonna tell you my
nickname....Maybe later!!!!
Lots of Love
DHammett

This is what I LOVE about this group...so much love and positive
thinking ! Denise Hammett, Jan, Louie, Lisa and now Linda and I
believe Denise Hallock all have written lovely encouraging letters to
Pat during his emotional roller coaster due to the fact he missed his
MUCH anticipated niece's wedding due to his seriious health issues.
Please forgive me if I hae left anyone off, I assure you it is
unintentional!
God Bless everyone in this group ! It is so uplifting to come in and
read the messages of love and encouragement ! Keep up the good work
everybody !
Love and Hugs, Jeannine

Dear Anna,
It has been so long since I have heard from you. The last that I
recall was over a year ago and you were having surgery. I hope things
went great with this and you were able to have a good 2003. Do not
make such a stranger out of yourself again! Welcome home, again!!!
Please come back soon!!!
Robert
A Founding Member,

Mark was NPO and sick from the chemo and radiation (he got acute
pancreatitis from the steroids they gave him for the cancer) and had to
try to take 42 pills a day. It was awful - if he didn't keep them
down, you had to decide if he should try to take them again, or what.
The patches are a godsend. His skin does become irritated around the
edges. I don't even try to scrub the adhesive off.
What dosage of Methadone are you on? Maybe they didn't give you strong
enough patches?
Eileen

Pat,
You have got it now!!!!! Sorry about the mix up. I should have
cleared this up, along with the swelling that I am having and my
virus filled x-address. Kidney failure is harder to do than the names
and addresses!!!!!
Thanks,
Robert
roberthammett@...
A Founding Member,

Denise,
Best of luck on your adventure on your car repair. Before you spend a
fortune on it, it may be wise to look into replacing it. Please do
not get to stressed out about it. Stress is a breeding ground for
pancreatitis. Good luck, Sis!!!
Robert
A Founding Member,

Not a good drug for us!!!!!!!!
Thanks,
Robert
A Founding Member,

Hello All!
I just wanted to say hello before I head out to take the car to the shop....
urgh. Hopefully all will go well with that and it won't cost me a fortune to
get it repaired. (I'm hoping it will be the same thing that I had fixed last
summer, so maybe I can get it fixed for free.... yep, I am a cheapskate!) The
guy seemed pretty sure thats what it was though, so now its just a matter of
getting it back there and making sure, then calling the investigator and
letting her know.
I may have to file a new complaint with the state... if that is the case I am
going to ask that they have to replace the motor or replace the car itself.
They had the car from July until October. I haven't even put 1500 miles on it
since I got it back. I just am not really very pleased with the company at
all. The stress this is putting on me... good grief.... I really don't need it
thats for sure.
Well, I better get going. Have to get a shower yet.
{{{HUGZ and Prayers}}}
Denise
Denise Hallock in Michigan
Co-Owner ~ The Pancreatitis Place

Hello, Eileen. Yes I was using the Duragesic patches, 100mmg.every
48hrs. They just didn't seem to work that well for me. The methadone
usually works very well, however it's effectiveness has been less of
late.It's very good that your husband is doing well with the dosage
he is using. I have to say that I envy him with the patches. It gets
really hard sometomes to take all these darn pills. From Linda from
Atlanta

Anna,
Of course we remember you!! Thank you sooooo much for posting about the
Depakote, I was tryed on it once, but I had an allergic reaction so I wasn't on
it
for long enough to do any damage to my pancreas, thank goodness... but how
many others have been?
Its terrible that they prescribe medications that can hurt us like this.
Again thank you for sharing. I hope that you have been doing ok??? We have
missed you!!
{{{HUGZ and Prayers}}}
Denise
Denise Hallock in Michigan
Co-Owner ~ The Pancreatitis Place

Pat Denise Hallock does not have a wife!! hE!HE! she has a friend,
though. All kinds of friends... pink ones. yellow ones with polka dots,
striped ones with checkers on their butts... just all kinds!! Take your
pick?????? guess who?????

Boy was I getting crazy mixed up, {AGAIN I CAN HEAR JEANNINE
SCREAMING} with the TWO DENISE's posting last week, and some post's
headed Robert and Denise really got me wondering!!!
So I have it now 100%, it is Denise Hallock and Denise Hammett/Robert?
at last, i know that some of you others were mixed up too, i saw the
mixed replies to posts that thought that some of DEniseH's posts were
coming from Denise H's post too and then it hit me again!! MORE
CONFUSION!!! THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME INITIALS!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
Take me to the loco coco house downtown, the one where they give the
liquid stupid out (Ilove that one DHallock), like One flew Over The
Cuckoo's Nest!!
Please, someone tell them to have pity on me, I'm stoopid is as
stoopid does or whatever Forrest said, I can only deal with ONE's,
ban all TWO's !!
Denise Hallock is not Robert's wife, RIGHT? Ah, GOOD.
Denise Hammett IS Robert's wife, RIGHT? Ah, Double Good!!
I'm going back to sleep now, my brain is tired,
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'sssssssssssssssssss,,,,,
Pat

letting any of my emails through to Robert with the links.. i've tried 4-5
times and ib n different ways... don't know what's ging on? love, jan xox

Hello Robert, and hello to you too Denise,
First, I'm delighted to see you back and fighting Robert, and I hope
your feeling better Denise.
Robert, it was me that started the whole thing off in relation to
EPILIM or DEPAKOTE as it's called here.
When I read your post whre you said you were prescribed NEURONTIN, my
heart went through the floor.
Automatically I remembered it was used to treat epilepsy primarily,
and initially I confused it with DEPAKOTE.
I'm not sorry I caused confusion now because I do not think either of
them would be a good idea for you the way things are going for you.

Hello ANNA!
It's apleasure to meet you Anna, I know I have not spoken with you
before because I would have remembered your story vividly, because I
have always said that what you call DEPAKOTE in the USA, we call
EPILIM, and my health has never, ever been right from the time I
first took it back in the early 1990's.
I am so sorry that you are now under this terrible life sentence as a
result of innocently taking a product that you were told would be for
your benefit, it's even worse that your doctors didn't stop you
taking it sooner.
The drug has always been known to cause liver damage and anyone
taking it should have had regular liver function tests. If you did
not have them, then you wre mistreated and you should take some
action against your then medical advisors. I have absolutley no doubt
that my liver would now be in serious trouble had I not had the
regular blood test to monitor me when I was taking this horrible drug.
My heart goes out to the many thousands of EPILEPTIC's that had no
choice at one time but to take this dreadful drug, so many of them
have suffered enormously in addition to having to endure the
awfullness of having continuous seizures to deal with also.
Anna, it is in my view, a disgrace that this horrible drug is still
prescribed despite the fact it is know to do all this damage to
innocent people.
Hopefully you will continue to have more great days than bad ones,
and it is a waste of time thinking about the past, you sound to me to
be a very calm person and I'm sure that this attitude will see you
through, meanwhile,
God bless you and keep you safe and well,
Pat

Hello everyone,sorry I have not posted in a long time..so I am not
sure if anyone will remember me..I read the messages all the time,and
I do pray for each and everyone of you!!! About 4 years ago I was
prescribed Depakote for my migraine headaches..well...after months of
taking this drug I got very sick. Finally they found out what was
wrong.I had gotten pancreatitis from the Depakote..Immediately the
doctor took me off the drug...They told me that I had gotten
pancreatitis from the drug Depakote!!!!! I never had any problems with
pancreatitis until I started taking that drug..I wish I had never ever
taken it..now,,my life is ruined because of it....please dont take
this drug..please... from Anna in Indiana

Louie,
Hopefully when you get to the courthouse with your daughter the DA and your
attorney will be able to speak before court and maybe get this mess all worked
out with your daughter having to see the judge. I will light a candle for her
and say a little prayer.
Lisa
Simi valley, CA

Pat...didn't you say you are on cholesterol lowering meds? Perhaps
that is why they are testing your blood so often...I get mine done
every three months like clock work.
Again, I would like to suggest Milk Thistle (Silymarin) for the
health of your liver. Obviously I am not a doc but it was *my* doc
who recommended I take it and my lab tests bears it out as when I
run out the liver values start to climb again. Doc says they have
done many double-blind studies that prove Milk Thistle works. There
is also Licorice Root I think that is for the liver too.
If you can't find MT in your stores, perhaps you can look for it on
a website like www.vitaminworld.com. We have a vitamin world store
here and their prices are by far the best ones in the area of all
the various health food/vitamin stores around.
Love and luck...Jeannine

Jac,
Thank you for asking about me, it is so nice that so many care. I am resting,
the boys are playing in the tub right now so I had a few minutes to check in on
the board. I hope you are having a wonderful evening.
Lisa

Hi Pat,
I feel very sorry that your didn't get to attend your niece's wedding and to
see your sister. You are a truly amazing man. And you are right in your
belief about God's plan for you. Sometimes when I get a little bit down and
when the pain level is very high, I know that I'm a very special person,
because God does not give me more than I can handle. It takes a very
stronger person to be able to handle this dreaded disease, and your are
certainly one of the strongest one I have met yet. You attitude is very
encouraging for me. Sometimes I wonder why everything has to happen all at
once. Why can't the disappointments be spread out a little further apart.
You are very fortunate to have your PCP make house calls. I don't know of
any place here that they still make house calls. You and Lily have a very
good marriage and you are truly blessed to have each other. She is truly a
Saint and really understands your disease, which I'm sure is a great
comfort. I think the most disturbing thing with CP, is not being able to
plan on anything really happening. When we do make plans to do anything at
all, back in our minds , we know it really depends on how we feel